halialkers: (Ioseb Jugashvili)

In the latest installment of the "FDR and Stalin were moral equals" series, [livejournal.com profile] badlydrawnjeff was again presented with the same conversation he was presented all the other times. He once again claimed that he did not say what anyone else with a fraction of intellectual honesty or sincerity would have realized he very much did say. The offending comment that started this whole thing was when he claimed, in one of the most breath-taking and bald examples of the big lie I've ever seen that FDR and Stalin were moral equals, and that the New Deal was directly comparable to the generic social programs of Ioseb Jugashvili.

Social programs, I might add, which were starve people and take their stuff, and enslave in giant slave-labor camps anyone he objected. His actual comment included the amazingly stupid line about not being sure whether or not the Internment camps involved slave labor, to morally compare the spasms of racist bigotry in WWII America targeting ethnic Japanese on the mainland to the Gulag Archipelago in the USSR, where people could literally face the prospect of show trials for non-existent crimes in the Gulag after being sent to the Gulag for non-existent crimes to start with.

However, in this installment he upped the ante by being deliberately asked whether or not he sincerely meant that the USA had a program akin to collectivization in the Soviet Union. This would be the root of the Ukrainian Terror-Famine, which was part of a USSR-wide phenomenon at its most lethal in the entire USSR in Kazakhstan, which lost 25% of the population to Stalin's Terror.

At this point, he's gone as far off the deep end as 67th Tigers in *his* recent comment about a MODERATE British action in the case of intervention in the ACW being the deliberate burning of the entirety of New York City at the time, without specifying even that civilians would be evacuated first ala Atlanta.

halialkers: Profile view in blue armor of a woman with olive skin, pointy ears, blue eyes, and silver hair (Teagan H'vat Ta'eris)
From the Department of Truth Is Stranger Than Fiction: 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46669807/ns/us_news-the_new_york_times/?ocid=ansmsnbc11#.T1oG4PXLuAo

I agree with Pat Robertson. There's a string of words I never, ever expected to be in a single sentence. O.X

halialkers: Picard looking left and gesturing with caption "WTF is this shit?" (WTF is this shit)
The offending paragraph to the British JeffBot (my comments in Italics with S_F, his in Bold with Numbered Feline):

S_F:
The Union Army of the US Civil War was 1.5 million strong, but in terms of the structure, it was created by convoluted patterns of enlistment, as well as recruiting from both US states and states controlled by the so-called Richmond government, such that the Civil War is one case where numbers can only be estimates. Thus while I say the Union army was 1.5 million strong, it might have been larger at various points, or alternately it might include in several cases counting one person twice or thrice due to multiple enlistments.
cut for length and sheer concentrated stupidity )

The Union Army of the US Civil War was 1.5 million strong, but in terms of the structure, it was created by convoluted patterns of enlistment, as well as recruiting from both US states and states controlled by the so-called Richmond government, such that the Civil War is one case where numbers can only be estimates. Thus while I say the Union army was 1.5 million strong, it might have been larger at various points, or alternately it might include in several cases counting one person twice or thrice due to multiple enlistments.

But I digress, this is why I sometimes loathe AH.com as now that I've met the JeffBot I happen to recognize this version of trolling when I see it.
halialkers: Angewomon. An angelic woman with six wings (Amber)
http://www.amazon.com/Path-Victory-Mediterranean-Theater-World/dp/0374205183

^This. It tries really, really hard to lay out a thesis that the sequence of bloody attrition battles in the Mediterranean really does deserve the emphasis accorded to it in traditional histories, attention far overshadowing the degeneration of the Wehrmacht in the bloodsoaked battles in the Axis-Soviet War. It really, really tries. Unfortunately it tries to lay out claims that are directly contradicted by the evidence. Such as the Mediterranean serving as a learning curve.....and then the Allied generals repeat the exact same mistake over and over again. Claiming that the generalship on the Western Front in Northwestern Europe was a higher order than that seen in the Mediterranean.....and ignoring that the Bocage, Aachen, the Huertgen Forest, Metz, the Scheldt.....all overqualify for the kind of foolish headlong attacks it says the generals learned against in the Mediterranean.

I give the writer props for trying to find the rose in the pile of bullshit. I really, really do. Unfortunately for it that rose simply put does not exist in anything like the term it says it does. Sure, it raises the point that much of the fighting here was politically motivated, but given the inelegant attrition war in the Western Front of WWII and two-thirds of the Eastern Front IOTL for much of *that* war I fail to see why or how I am to be convinced that the people repeating most of the same mistakes in 1944-5 somehow learned in 1939-43 what not to do, or why the argument that the Mediterranean was exaggerated in importance is discredited. The book contradicts itself.

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These photographs are all before they became famous.

cut for size )

For non-sighted: a man in a suit with a mustache that doesn't cover that little groove of skin under the nose. Angular in face with poofy hair.

cut for size )

Another man in a suit with curly hair, angular face, prominent lips, and a more serious face.

cut for size )

Yet another guy with an angular face, prominent nose and lips, a mustache that doesn't fully cover the face, big bushy eyebrows, and Bedouin garb.

Good God:

Feb. 17th, 2012 04:17 pm
halialkers: Picard looking left and gesturing with caption "WTF is this shit?" (WTF is this shit)
I learned that Pat Buchanan said that the Treblinka Death Camp was a lie. That it didn't really kill anyone. What the flying fuck? How does a guy like this sound respectable to anyone with the least hint of a backbone in terms of honesty or morality? 
halialkers: Cartoon of stick figure at computer with caption "Someone is wrong on the Internet," (A drama queen thou art)
The aforementioned clusterfuckery on Alternatehistory.com, mentioned in that post yesterday, has at this point claimed another victim and the giant thread which was about issues between the moderators and the administrators not directly connected to MLP in the first place continues to creep and seep onward. I swear, I've been on this damn forum in one fashion or another since 2003, and I'm pretty much appalled that this is the most controversial thing on there since the banning of S.M. Stirling, either that or alternately the banning of an author who wrote....fair...tales of sci-fi but on the whole was one of the most infamous bigots on the forum.

I mean at least Sterling and *that guy* were banned over statements advocating genocide (an insta-banhammer on that forum and one rule I've adopted for my own LJ/DW, advocate it and the ban is automatic and never to be rescinded). That's serious stuff right there, something that really did deserve all this fuckery. But this? A cartoon show? FFS, people on that forum have curious obsessions with Warhammer 40K (it's where I first heard of it), Transformers, and other more "boyish" stuff and nobody goes ballistic over that. But a show for *girls* liked by *men* gets this? For God's sake even the *comic book fans* get along better on that forum than this. Even the ISRAEL threads haven't produced but one banning in recent days and that for the same advocating genocide/ethnic cleansing thing.

For non-sighted, the same macro from yesterday, a dog looking questioningly and the words "No SRSLY, WTF is this shit?" 





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